In “Neither Fish Nor Fowl” | Episode 262 of The Black Lincoln Collective Comedy Podcast, Parker, Fred, and Allan welcome one of the strangest guests ever to enter the BLC universe: Chainsaw Chicken.

Despite the name, Chainsaw would like everyone to understand two things immediately: he does not carry a chainsaw, and he is not a chicken.

From there, the crew dives into decades of Chainsaw Chicken history, including UFOs, Sasquatch, alien breeding programs, presidential encounters, Richard Nixon’s missing tape, old Hollywood, psychiatric treatment, impostor chickens, arrests, a bank robbery misunderstanding, a twin brother named Buzzsaw, life without a driver’s license, and the strange reality of building an independent comedy character for more than 20 years.

Chainsaw also talks about his creative philosophy, surviving as a nonconformist, algorithms that have no idea how to categorize him, the challenges of making independent comedy, and why sometimes the best thing you can do is simply keep being yourself.

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Episode 262 begins in suitably cursed fashion when the show intro repeats itself over and over before Parker finally regains control of the Black Lincoln Collective Podcast.

Then the guest arrives.

The crew welcomes Chainsaw Chicken, who immediately establishes the central rule of the character:

He is a man.

He has always been a man.

He is not a chicken.

And despite what the name suggests, he does not walk around carrying a chainsaw.

Chainsaw explains that the mask is simply part of who he is. He has been wearing some version of it essentially his entire life, considers himself completely normal, and appears genuinely confused that everyone else keeps treating the whole thing as unusual.

The conversation quickly expands into Chainsaw’s long personal mythology.

He talks about UFO experiences and Sasquatch encounters in the Pacific Northwest before revealing that he is apparently the result of an alien breeding program designed to create a superior human being.

Parker naturally wants to know about the mechanics.

Chainsaw assures everyone the process was probably conducted in a very sterile environment.

Politics comes next.

Chainsaw claims to have met multiple presidents, including Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, and Richard Nixon. Biden allegedly used to call him and tell old jokes. Nixon, meanwhile, supposedly recorded Chainsaw during the Watergate era, with the infamous missing section of tape apparently involving him.

That leads into stories about old Hollywood.

Chainsaw remembers the Brown Derby, Tyrone Power, Johnny Weissmuller, Basil Rathbone, and other figures from an era sufficiently old that Parker, Fred, and Allan have to start Googling names during the interview.

The contrast becomes one of the funniest recurring pieces of the episode: Chainsaw casually describes decades of cultural history like he saw it last Tuesday while the hosts struggle to understand who anyone is.

The crew also asks about Chainsaw’s relationship with modern technology.

His “chronicler” has been documenting his adventures since around 2004, producing hundreds of stories and an enormous catalog of videos. Chainsaw explains that the project has had to evolve from text and images into short-form video, streaming, AI tools, and modern social platforms.

He uses several AI systems but remains realistic about their limitations, particularly when trying to understand the enormous and deliberately confusing mythology contained on chainsawchicken.com.

A potential television project also comes up.

Chainsaw says his chronicler is developing a roughly 30-episode series centered largely around Chainsaw going through psychiatric treatment because everyone keeps insisting he should see a psychiatrist.

Naturally, the entire purpose is apparently to prove there is absolutely nothing wrong with him.

The conversation then produces a potential BLC spinoff character when Parker proposes becoming Grenade Monkey.

Grenade Monkey is not a monkey.

He does not possess a grenade.

His tagline would be:

“Pull the pin.”

This somehow makes perfect sense in the Chainsaw Chicken universe.

The crew asks Chainsaw about the closest he has come to being arrested or killed.

He says he has been arrested twice.

One story involves a bank robbery where the robber supposedly shouted “open your drawers.” Chainsaw misunderstands the instruction as “drop your drawers,” creating enough confusion to derail the robbery while also getting himself arrested for indecent exposure.

Asked about his closest brush with death, Chainsaw gives the answer many married men might understand:

His wife.

The episode also explores some of the practical consequences of living as Chainsaw Chicken.

Driver’s licenses are difficult when authorities want the mask removed.

Air travel and passports present similar problems.

Chainsaw’s solution to not having a valid driver’s license is remarkably simple:

He still drives.

He just drives fast enough that nobody catches him.

The crew eventually asks about his legacy.

That produces one of the episode’s more sincere moments.

Chainsaw says the archive, books, stories, and videos are ultimately there for people who feel different, refuse to conform, or are fighting the world simply to remain themselves.

His philosophy is straightforward:

Stick with who you are.

Don’t give up.

You can still be happy even if the rest of the world doesn’t completely understand you.

The conversation then shifts toward independent creativity.

Chainsaw discusses how difficult it is to get attention online, especially when algorithms cannot easily categorize what he is doing.

That leads to the phrase that gives the episode its strongest title:

Neither fish nor fowl.

Chainsaw isn’t a traditional TikTok creator, isn’t selling a typical product, and doesn’t fit neatly into one category. He describes the project as pushing situations rather than products.

Parker immediately relates.

The BLC crew has spent years writing elaborate comedy segments only to discover that a one-second fart joke can outperform hours of carefully constructed material.

Chainsaw calls it the artist’s dilemma.

The conversation also moves through movie recommendations, remakes, Ghostbusters, satire, recurring characters, the BLC multiverse, killing Fred off repeatedly, and the challenge of generating fresh comedy after hundreds of episodes.

Chainsaw recommends Peter Sellers’ Being There, praising its layered satire and explaining that great comedy can appear simple while operating on several different levels.

The interview closes with Chainsaw talking about new material arriving constantly at chainsawchicken.com and the struggle of existing outside the boxes that internet algorithms prefer.

For BLC, that sounds pretty familiar.

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